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Guilt and Guilt Trips

This is an article I found on the net a while back. I edited it a little. My comments are in blue. I have go find it again to get the citation. I have a lot of comments about it, but overall it is a good article with good suggestions.

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What is guilt? Guilt is your feeling about your personal failure to live up to your or someone else's standard of behavior.

There are times when we should feel guilty. On those occasions a good friend may gently help us see our inconsistency between what we say we believe and how we act.

What is a guilt trip? Guilt trips are about violating boundaries. Guilt trips are about control. It is a way of manipulating people to get a desired outcome through indirect and passive-aggressive tactics.

Inflicting guilt is used more frequently in families and small communities and organizations where direct conflict or confrontation might upset ties and working relationships. Using guilt unabashedly to control others gets passed on in families as surely as genes. Some families do it, some don't. Families that use guilt may not even be aware of how often they use it or how wrong it really is.

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Indirect - fear of destroying relationship...or fear of being exposed, showing needs? Appearing needy or weak? Fear of not getting needs met?

Why do parents use guilt trips?

To control indirectly. Don't want to use physical force because they would feel guilty? Or because it is illegal or not socially acceptable (in some cultures). Don't want to admit they really don't like being parents. Maybe they didn't even want the child?

Awareness - Using Guilt trips gets passed on like genes. Unless we teach about how guilt trips are used, the children will repeat the pattern with their kids as parents.
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Expecting people to give up a control tactic they've used "effectively" over a lifetime with each other may not be realistic.

Usually we don't need much help from others to know when we've failed to live up to our own code of moral conduct.

Setting boundaries

To deal with another’s' agenda for our behavior, we need to be clear about who we are, what we want and what we are willing to do.

IE be clear who we are, what we believe, what we want, need.

If we understand and are secure about ourselves, we become less vulnerable to inappropriate or blatant attempts to control our behavior.

true...insecurity makes us vulnerable

Setting boundaries is about being clear on personal and family goals, priorities and responsibilities.

It is about saying "no" when it is necessary. It is about communicating limits and taking control when others may want to control you. It is about agreeing to disagree in a pleasant manner.

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The other person may not let you do it in a "pleasant" manner though. Or they may not agree to disagree. Then it is harder to not feel guilty. They might not forgive you or accept you. Then it is more important that you forgive and accept yourself after doing all you can without sacrificing yourself.
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Taking charge

Here are some tips on what to do when someone is trying to inflict guilt.

- Mirror back to them the essence of what they are saying. "Are you telling me that if I don’t come and see you everyday I am not being a good daughter?" Confront them with their own words. "I have the feeling that you are upset because . . . Is that right?"

- State your position on the subject and recognize that they have a right to their opinion. "I understand that you feel differently, but let me explain why we chose to do thus and so."

This only works easily if the other person is willing to even listen to you. Many people who use guilt trips will just end the conversation. They will walk away or say something direct and controlling like "This conversation is over" or "I don't want to talk about it anymore". They will probably use there way of ending the conversation by trying again to make you feel guilty. For example they may say "There is no point in trying to talk to you.. " or "You are impossible to talk to." "You don't care how I feel!"

- Find out what they want or what would help them feel better. Tell them a range of options you are willing to do and see which one they favor. Be clear about what you are not willing to do. State your conditions and see if they are willing to meet them or make counter-proposals.

Again, this only works if they are willing to listen and treat you with a basic level of respect. Many teenagers can't do this with their parents, teachers or school authorities. And many emplolyees can't do with their bosses. And many people can't even do it with their own partners.

- Don't let them suck you into their plans. Make plans and be clear about them. Discuss with them how their plans and yours might match up. Negotiate from a position of strength. If they catch you off guard, tell them you need time to think about it and when you will get back to them.

Same problem as above. Many people are simply not in any kind of position of power to do this. In at least several countries in South America it would be unheard of for a teenager to try to do this with a parent. They would simply be physically hit. In England or the USA a parent may not hit a teenager, but they have many other ways of exercising control. Parens have financial, emotional and legal power.

If it is hard for you to do the things recommened by this author, it may well be because your parents abused or at the least misuded their power while you were living under their roof.

- Recognize that every relationship has give and take to it. Do your part. It is when the relationship becomes unbalanced that you have to draw the line.


- Have thick skin. So what if they inflict a lot of guilt. That is their way. You don't have to take it personally. So what if they are disappointed or angry with you. That is their problem. Be loving and matter-of-fact with them. "I'm sorry you feel that way. I hope it won't be a big problem between us."

Unfortunately it is not that easy for sensitive people. Sensitive people who have been manipulated with guilt trips for years simply can't just not take it personally. They have been taught to believe everything is their fault and they are responsible for the other person's emotions. Many parents teach their children and teens to be responsible for the parents' feelings. This is one of the most basic characteristics of a classic dysfunctional family. A family which creates codependent teens and adults.

Also it is not that easy for people who are dependent on someone else, as teenagers or many employees are. Likewise for many women in the world who are still financially dependent on their partners. Or even graduate students working on their PhD's who don't want to rock the boat for fear of not getting their degree.

- Don’t be afraid to say no and explain your reasons why. You owe them an explanation. That’s all. Listen to their attempts at persuasion. If they persist, be a broken record. State your own reasons over and over again if they keep coming back to the same point. "Like I said before, Bob and I decided that this year we would ..."

Again, it is not that easy for many people, depending on their situations, although these are good suggestions for when you are a legally free, even if not financially free or psychologically free "adult". And I suppose they are worth trying even when you aren't. What is likely to happen though is that the person will quickly turn to more direct ways of controling you when you show that you are not going to be as easily controlled with manipulation. Imagine a slave trying to use these strategies...

- Get the issue defined clearly and on the table rather than let innuendo or snide remarks pass. "What did you mean by that?" or, "Are you saying that I am not being responsible when?"

- If they have a valid point, acknowledge it, apologize and make amends if possible. Addressing your own faults openly will make it easier to draw the line when it is their perception or interpretation that seems to be the problem.

This is a good suggestion. I have found when I apologize for something the other person is more likely to apologize also. On the other hand, some people will just take your apology as a sign that they have "won" and it will maintain their feeling of superiority and maintain the imbalance of power.

It may be a painful process, but being clear about boundaries helps create healthy and respectful relationships. Other people's feelings count. But they don't have the right to control you with those feelings. As long as you are in control, it is their problem, not yours. Even if the other party doesn't change, at least you'll be more at peace - and more in control.

If you take guilt trips, you are choosing to go along for the ride. How is that for a guilt trip?

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The author thinks he is being funny with his ending, but for people like teens in an emotionally abusive home, they really are not in control and won't be till they get out of the house. It only makes them feel worse to make it sound so simple. If it were that simple, they would have done it already. Also many adults say something like "it is your choice" when in fact the teenager has very few choices, or can only choose between doing what the adult says or being punished or made to feel bad about themselves.

In other words, the author fails to show understanding for many people in many situations which are very different than his own. I am pretty sure the author is a free-lance writer. There are few people in the world with more freedom than a free-lance writer. A free-lance writer has no one individual boss, so they have less fear of getting fired for "talking back", disobeying etc. I don't think this author would be much help to a suicidal teen.

On the other hand these are good suggestions for someone who has some degree of freedom and wants to feel more free and in control of their own lives. Or in other words both happier and more guilt-free.

S.Hein
Feb. 6, 2006


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I am thinking more about guilt trips. I have been thinking about it more because I got a letter from someone who wanted me to feel guilty. I felt depressed most of the day yesterdsay. It led me to think that guilt trips kill your motivation. Then after I thought about it more tonight I had this thought. Maybe it kills our motivation because when we feel guilty we start to think we are a bad person. And if we are a bad person then we don't deserve to live. So if we don't deserve to live, then we have no motivation to even try to meet our survival needs.

November, 2005

 


 

She wants me to feel responsible. But how can I fix her pain? I can't fall in love with her again. I can't leave Laura for her. I can't write to her and tell her about my life just because I feel guilty for not writing more. Well, I could, but I don't want to do that.

Does she really want something from me or does she just want to hurt me?

If we feel guilty about something we caused and is in our control, we can respond. We are able to respond so we can be responsible and do something to make things better. Restitution in other words. But in Sarah's case what can I do? Take back all the conversations we had? Take back all the things I said? Give her her time back that she thinks she wasted on talking to me and hoping we would have a future together?

The artile said a good friend can gently help you see.. But first, is Sarah a good friend now? Or is she more like an enemy? Is she helping me or hurting me? Am I better off with her in my life or without her? Would my life be better if I never heard from her again? If someone just attacks you without saying something constructive, or even if they do say something constructive but they say it in such a hurtful way that you can't get anything constructive from what they are saying, it is helpful to hear from them? I think of David Caruso as I think about this. He probably gave up on trying to get something constructive from my writing and my attacks on him and the MSCEIT test.

So I am alsways getting something helpful from Sarah. Probably I am still better off with her in my life, at a safe distance, so to speak, than without her. But are we at a safe distance if her words can depress me for a whole day? Could she have helped me see something in a more efficient way? Probably if she weren't so hurt herself. I guess in some way Sarah still wants to help me. I think when she says "you have changed" she wants me to be more like I was or something. She used to admire me, look up to me, call me her hero. So have I changed? I am sure that I have, but is it for the worse as she thinks it is? I am not really sure what she was talking about. She was complaining that I am calling the teens I talk to DSS teens. Ok so does she want me to just call them teens? Or suicidal teens or self harming teens or depressed teens? Or what? I guess she feels left out, forgotten, unimportant. Replaced maybe. But no one will ever take her place. I will never get in the same situation again with anyone. I learned my lesson from Sarah. And I am still learning. Emotionally needy teens can be dangerous.

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saying i dont want you to respond helps give her sense of control.

 


 

 
Esto fue traducido por un programa...

Éste es un viaje que usted no desea tomar este verano - un viaje de la culpabilidad.

¿Cuál es culpabilidad? La culpabilidad es su sensación sobre su falta personal de vivir hasta su estándar del comportamiento.

Hay las épocas en que debemos sentirnos culpables. En esas ocasiones cuando estamos ocultos a nuestros propios lapsos morales, un buen amigo puede ayudarnos suavemente a ver nuestra inconsistencia entre lo que decimos que creemos y cómo actuamos.

¿Cuál es un viaje de la culpabilidad? Los viajes de la culpabilidad están sobre límites de la violación. Los viajes de la culpabilidad están sobre control. Es una manera de manipular a gente para conseguir un resultado deseado con táctica indirectas y pasivo-agresivas.

Infligir culpabilidad se utiliza más con frecuencia en familias y comunidades y organizaciones pequeñas cuando sea directo está en conflicto o la confrontación pudo trastornar lazos y relaciones de funcionamiento.

Usar culpabilidad unabashedly para controlar otras consigue pasada encendido en familias tan seguramente como genes. Algunas familias lo hacen, algo no . Las familias que utilizan culpabilidad pueden incluso no estar enteradas de cómo la utilizan a menudo o de cómo es incorrecto realmente está.

Esperar que la gente dé para arriba una táctica del control que ella ha utilizado "con eficacia" sobre un curso de la vida con uno a puede no ser realista. No necesitamos generalmente mucha ayuda de otras saber cuándo no hemos podido vivir hasta nuestro propio código de la conducta moral.

Fijar límites.

Para no ser controlado por la otra persona, hay que tener claras tus creencias, hay que saber que necesidades tienes para ser feliz, hay que tener claros tus objectivos, y saber lo que estás dispuesto a hacer para cumplirlos.

Ocuparse de la agenda de otra persona para nuestro comportamiento, necesitamos estar claros sobre quiénes somos, lo que deseamos y cuál estamos dispuestos a hacer.

Si entendemos y somos seguros sobre nosotros mismos, hacemos menos vulnerables a las tentativas inadecuadas o evidentes de controlar nuestro comportamiento.

Fijar límites está sobre estar claro en metas personales y de la familia, prioridades y responsabilidades.

Está sobre decir "no" cuando es necesario. Está sobre límites el comunicarse y tomar control cuando otros pueden desear controlarle. Está sobre acordar discrepar de una manera agradable.

Tomar la carga. Aquí están algunas extremidades en cuál a hacer cuando alguien está intentando infligir culpabilidad.

- espejo de nuevo a ellos la esencia de lo que están diciendo. "está usted que me dice que si no vengo y verle diario no esté siendo una buena hija?" Enfréntelos con sus propias palabras. "tengo la sensación que usted está trastornado porque. . . Está eso a la derecha?"


- indique su posición respecto al tema y reconozca que tienen una derecha a su opinión. "entiendo que usted se siente diferentemente, pero déjeme explica porqué elegimos hacer así y tan."

- descubra lo que él desea. Dígale una gama de opciones que usted está dispuesto a hacer y a ver qué él favorece. Esté claro sobre cuál usted no está dispuesto a hacer. Indique sus condiciones y vea si están dispuestas a resolverlas o a hacer contrapropuestas.

- no las deje aspirarle en sus planes. Haga los planes y esté claro sobre ellos. Discuta con ellos cómo sus planes y los tuyos pudieron emparejar para arriba. Negocie de una posición de la fuerza. Si le cogen de protector, dígales que usted necesite hora de pensar de ella y cuando usted conseguirá de nuevo a ellos.

- reconozca que cada relación tiene elasticidad y toma a ella. Haga su parte. Es cuando la relación llega a ser desequilibrada que usted tiene que dibujar la línea.

- tenga piel gruesa. Tan qué si infligen muchos de culpabilidad. Ésa es su manera. Usted no tiene que tomarla personalmente. Tan qué si están decepcionados o enojados con usted. Ése es su problema. Sea cariñoso y matter-of-fact con ellos. "estoy apesadumbrado usted la sensación que manera. Espero que no sea un problema grande entre nosotros."

- no esté asustado decir no y explicar sus razones por las que usted les debe una explicación. Ése es todo. Escuche sus tentativas en la persuasión. Si persisten, sea un expediente quebrado. Indique sus propias razones repetidamente otra vez si guardan el volverse al mismo punto. "como dije antes, Bob y yo decidíamos que este año ..."

- consiga la edición definida claramente y en la tabla más bien que deje las observaciones del innuendo o del snide pasan. "qué usted significó por ése?" o, "es usted que dice que no estoy siendo responsable cuando?"

- si tienen un punto válido, lo reconocen, se disculpan y hacen la compensación si es posible. Dirigiéndose a usted posea las averías abiertamente hará más fácil dibujar la línea cuando es su opinión o interpretación que se parece ser el problema.

Puede ser un proceso doloroso, pero estando claro sobre ayudas de los límites cree las relaciones sanas y respetuosas. Cuenta de las sensaciones de la gente. Pero no tienen la derecha de controlarle con esas sensaciones. Mientras usted está en control, es su problema, no el tuyo. Incluso si el otro partido no cambia, por lo menos usted será más en la paz - y más en control.

Si usted toma viajes de la culpabilidad, usted está eligiendo ir adelante para el paseo. ¿Cómo está eso para un viaje de la culpabilidad?

 

Los sentimientos de culpabilidad vienen de

1. La naturaleza
2. Los valores, creencias, enseñanzas de la familia y la cultura/religion